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		<title>Comment on Ooops! I Baked It Again. (3rd Time!) by sereal</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi. i&#039;ve got the same problem with my early 2008 MBP 2.4. it won&#039;t start after the disc sounds, never get into the chime. this is happened for 2nd time now. the first fix only last for 4.5 months. the technician said that the power cable somewhere in the fan stucked and won&#039;t continue to power up the logic. now i try to find out which part on the fan that made the power stuck. anyone have an answer ? im asking here because the techie guy who fix my mbp is moving out to a new place somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi. i&#8217;ve got the same problem with my early 2008 MBP 2.4. it won&#8217;t start after the disc sounds, never get into the chime. this is happened for 2nd time now. the first fix only last for 4.5 months. the technician said that the power cable somewhere in the fan stucked and won&#8217;t continue to power up the logic. now i try to find out which part on the fan that made the power stuck. anyone have an answer ? im asking here because the techie guy who fix my mbp is moving out to a new place somewhere.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooops! I Baked It Again. (3rd Time!) by Eric Turner</title>
		<link>http://russell.heistuman.com/2010/08/09/ooops-i-baked-it-again-3rd-time/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell,

I just found this (and the other 2 blog posts). The reason it comes back from sleep when after you bake it, is because the MBP stores all the RAM data on the hard drive, then shuts down the computer. When you boot it back up, it looks to see if any RAM data on the hard drive, and if there is, loads it and returns you to your previous state. It has nothing to do with the sleep mode, unless while the machine is asleep, it produces heat at a certain solder joint or something like that. It would be interesting to leave the MBP disassembled, and look at it with infrared goggles while it is asleep, to see where the heat is coming from. 

I have a dead MBP in my shop right now, which I am going to bake. It has all the symptoms of the NVidia issue too, but the Apple store here in Spokane says they can&#039;t warranty it. Pretty lame.

Oh well, time for me to take my own advice and bake it! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell,</p>
<p>I just found this (and the other 2 blog posts). The reason it comes back from sleep when after you bake it, is because the MBP stores all the RAM data on the hard drive, then shuts down the computer. When you boot it back up, it looks to see if any RAM data on the hard drive, and if there is, loads it and returns you to your previous state. It has nothing to do with the sleep mode, unless while the machine is asleep, it produces heat at a certain solder joint or something like that. It would be interesting to leave the MBP disassembled, and look at it with infrared goggles while it is asleep, to see where the heat is coming from. </p>
<p>I have a dead MBP in my shop right now, which I am going to bake. It has all the symptoms of the NVidia issue too, but the Apple store here in Spokane says they can&#8217;t warranty it. Pretty lame.</p>
<p>Oh well, time for me to take my own advice and bake it! <img src='http://russell.heistuman.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooops! I Baked It Again. (3rd Time!) by Russell Heistuman</title>
		<link>http://russell.heistuman.com/2010/08/09/ooops-i-baked-it-again-3rd-time/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Heistuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad your system&#039;s running. Very cool. I look forward to hearing how it holds up. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad your system&#8217;s running. Very cool. I look forward to hearing how it holds up. <img src='http://russell.heistuman.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooops! I Baked It Again. (3rd Time!) by Russell Heistuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Heistuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it may be an issue of heating and cooling that may crack soldered connections, its actually the heat that ultimately fixes in this case as it melts the soldering to refill in any microscopic cracks (at least thats the theory). As far as running hot, its been a pretty established reality that MBPs run hot and they&#039;re well-designed to accommodate that heat. For mine, I actually have mine on a cooling fan unit most of the time. But if it is a heat issue, it only takes one time to do any possible damage. I know in my case, if you were connected to an external monitor and you disconnect and then close your MBP putting it to sleep before the screen reconfigures to just your laptop screen, it will continue to run (heat) even when closed. Not so bad, but if you then take your not-fully-sleeping MBP and put it in a case with no airflow, your system can get extremely hot. However, its hard to pin it on that, because the two times thats happened to me, my system always came back up when opened. The times my system has died, has been when attempting to wake the system from sleep. You&#039;d think if extreme heat was an issue, its also the cure. So, hard to say what&#039;s too hot, if its heating to the point of melting soldering points, ti would be doing the same thing as the oven fix--so not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it may be an issue of heating and cooling that may crack soldered connections, its actually the heat that ultimately fixes in this case as it melts the soldering to refill in any microscopic cracks (at least thats the theory). As far as running hot, its been a pretty established reality that MBPs run hot and they&#8217;re well-designed to accommodate that heat. For mine, I actually have mine on a cooling fan unit most of the time. But if it is a heat issue, it only takes one time to do any possible damage. I know in my case, if you were connected to an external monitor and you disconnect and then close your MBP putting it to sleep before the screen reconfigures to just your laptop screen, it will continue to run (heat) even when closed. Not so bad, but if you then take your not-fully-sleeping MBP and put it in a case with no airflow, your system can get extremely hot. However, its hard to pin it on that, because the two times thats happened to me, my system always came back up when opened. The times my system has died, has been when attempting to wake the system from sleep. You&#8217;d think if extreme heat was an issue, its also the cure. So, hard to say what&#8217;s too hot, if its heating to the point of melting soldering points, ti would be doing the same thing as the oven fix&#8211;so not sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooops! I Baked It Again. (3rd Time!) by Dinah Bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dinah Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, this is really bazzar.  (besides I can&#039;t spell) Before I came onto your site, I had been reading up on the &#039;logic board&#039; problem and there were several different ideas on correcting the problem  including putting your computer under a blanket (basicly cooking it...but the whole thing) anyway, again with the heat thing, it made since to me and so I put my laptop under 2 pillows and after about 15 min or so, while I was reading your web site .... well I just now went and got it out....let it cool down some...and  it was slow but it is
working...It&#039;s been down since March this year and never came on.  I had originally thought the reason it wasn&#039;t working was because it fell off the couch.  But I can&#039;t believe this!!!  I really believe it has to do with how these things get so hot.  This is just amazing.
I&#039;m using this computer (desk top Dell  Windows XP98) slow as molasses in winter  no,
SLOWER THAN MOLASSES IN WINTER    and I live outside Chicago Il....I know how slow molasses run in winter.  OK..so I&#039;m listening to my iTunes playing away on my MBP...Can you believe this?  
Some of those other sites mentioned that you turn the computer battery side up when heating it  I did.  I remembered that when it first went out, sometimes the chime would work and sometimes not.  
Well, I have my iTunes on and my iPhoto slide show going.....IS THIS FOR REAL???
I&#039;ll let you know if it continues to work....
Thank you for your inspiration and advice.   I also have to thank the internet.  and of course   Thank God!!!  I still can&#039;t believe this!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, this is really bazzar.  (besides I can&#8217;t spell) Before I came onto your site, I had been reading up on the &#8216;logic board&#8217; problem and there were several different ideas on correcting the problem  including putting your computer under a blanket (basicly cooking it&#8230;but the whole thing) anyway, again with the heat thing, it made since to me and so I put my laptop under 2 pillows and after about 15 min or so, while I was reading your web site &#8230;. well I just now went and got it out&#8230;.let it cool down some&#8230;and  it was slow but it is<br />
working&#8230;It&#8217;s been down since March this year and never came on.  I had originally thought the reason it wasn&#8217;t working was because it fell off the couch.  But I can&#8217;t believe this!!!  I really believe it has to do with how these things get so hot.  This is just amazing.<br />
I&#8217;m using this computer (desk top Dell  Windows XP98) slow as molasses in winter  no,<br />
SLOWER THAN MOLASSES IN WINTER    and I live outside Chicago Il&#8230;.I know how slow molasses run in winter.  OK..so I&#8217;m listening to my iTunes playing away on my MBP&#8230;Can you believe this?<br />
Some of those other sites mentioned that you turn the computer battery side up when heating it  I did.  I remembered that when it first went out, sometimes the chime would work and sometimes not.<br />
Well, I have my iTunes on and my iPhoto slide show going&#8230;..IS THIS FOR REAL???<br />
I&#8217;ll let you know if it continues to work&#8230;.<br />
Thank you for your inspiration and advice.   I also have to thank the internet.  and of course   Thank God!!!  I still can&#8217;t believe this!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ooops! I Baked It Again. (3rd Time!) by Dinah Bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dinah Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so fascinating!  I have just come back from taking my MBP 15in (prchsd 7/07) for a diagnosis.  I am so computer illiterate but the term &#039;logic board&#039; was used in the description of the problem (in addition to the $1000.00 repair estimate).  I&#039;ve currently decided to get my hard drive moved to an external drive...buy a desk top...check to see if I can possibly get into that nVidia/Apple replacement program.  If I can&#039;t get that replacement, I&#039;ll be trying your procedure.
Anyway...this problem seems to be heat related....What do you think?  I&#039;ve noticed that all these laptops get really hot.  I wouldn&#039;t wonder that things melt inside them or at least get softened.  I have a small wooden box with slats on top so the computer can keep cooler...so i&#039;m wondering if that&#039;s why mines lasted 3 years.  And then, when you heat up the board it goes back to it&#039;s original place....What do you think?  Has anyone else thought the heat might be a cause?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so fascinating!  I have just come back from taking my MBP 15in (prchsd 7/07) for a diagnosis.  I am so computer illiterate but the term &#8216;logic board&#8217; was used in the description of the problem (in addition to the $1000.00 repair estimate).  I&#8217;ve currently decided to get my hard drive moved to an external drive&#8230;buy a desk top&#8230;check to see if I can possibly get into that nVidia/Apple replacement program.  If I can&#8217;t get that replacement, I&#8217;ll be trying your procedure.<br />
Anyway&#8230;this problem seems to be heat related&#8230;.What do you think?  I&#8217;ve noticed that all these laptops get really hot.  I wouldn&#8217;t wonder that things melt inside them or at least get softened.  I have a small wooden box with slats on top so the computer can keep cooler&#8230;so i&#8217;m wondering if that&#8217;s why mines lasted 3 years.  And then, when you heat up the board it goes back to it&#8217;s original place&#8230;.What do you think?  Has anyone else thought the heat might be a cause?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boxee Trying to Make AppleTV a Better Hobby by AppleTV Changing Back To iTV? With Apps? Hmm&#8230; : Russell.Heistuman.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>AppleTV Changing Back To iTV? With Apps? Hmm&#8230; : Russell.Heistuman.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been awhile since I&#8217;ve posted anything about AppleTV. Or Boxee. When Boxee came out for OS X, it took the desire (or need) out of wanting [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Trademark Infringement of Mascot Logo! Texas High School Gets Mauled by Penn State by Russell Heistuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Heistuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff. But to be fair to Penn State, Buna was guilty of using the same exact Nittany Lion logo (not a variation but the same exact logo--color and all) and Penn State was obligated by law to defend their trademark once they found out about it. Even if it has lost its original stylishness from the 70&#039;s, it is still instantly recognizable and therefore holds a great deal of value to Penn State. I may not have made it clearer in this post by comparing what Buna had been using before going with the new cougar design, but Penn State has reviewed the new cougar logo and agrees that it does not infringe upon the Nittany Lion version of their logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff. But to be fair to Penn State, Buna was guilty of using the same exact Nittany Lion logo (not a variation but the same exact logo&#8211;color and all) and Penn State was obligated by law to defend their trademark once they found out about it. Even if it has lost its original stylishness from the 70&#8217;s, it is still instantly recognizable and therefore holds a great deal of value to Penn State. I may not have made it clearer in this post by comparing what Buna had been using before going with the new cougar design, but Penn State has reviewed the new cougar logo and agrees that it does not infringe upon the Nittany Lion version of their logo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trademark Infringement of Mascot Logo! Texas High School Gets Mauled by Penn State by Jeff Metzler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Metzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that the logo on the Buna football helmet is the ripped off one and that the  one designed  by Heistuman is the replacement. My bad, but the PSU logo looks aweful it&#039;s always reminded me of a salamander hear rather than a mountain lion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the logo on the Buna football helmet is the ripped off one and that the  one designed  by Heistuman is the replacement. My bad, but the PSU logo looks aweful it&#8217;s always reminded me of a salamander hear rather than a mountain lion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trademark Infringement of Mascot Logo! Texas High School Gets Mauled by Penn State by Jeff Metzler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Metzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Penn State fan and a graphic designer. The Buna High School Cougars logo is FAR SUPERIOR in every way to the hokey looking Penn State mark. Why PSU continues to use such garbage even to the point of infringing on the rights of a small high school to defend the ugly thing is beyond me.

The color is not the same, it&#039;s close but not the same shade, and the logo isn&#039;t even close in resemblance. We don&#039;t live in a vacuum and a cougar and a mountain lion are much more similar in aspect than these two logos. 

The designer did a great job and the high school should be proud. Penn State should be ashamed -I am for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Penn State fan and a graphic designer. The Buna High School Cougars logo is FAR SUPERIOR in every way to the hokey looking Penn State mark. Why PSU continues to use such garbage even to the point of infringing on the rights of a small high school to defend the ugly thing is beyond me.</p>
<p>The color is not the same, it&#8217;s close but not the same shade, and the logo isn&#8217;t even close in resemblance. We don&#8217;t live in a vacuum and a cougar and a mountain lion are much more similar in aspect than these two logos. </p>
<p>The designer did a great job and the high school should be proud. Penn State should be ashamed -I am for them.</p>
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